In light of recent events; Rain being captured, Manhattan's getting...

@Ray: I'm not sure. I just heard from two girls, that the police visited Judy's but not what happened to the girls. But both girls tell me that the Vietnamese girls are scared and fed up and consider no longer returning to Shanghai. Understandable.

@IT Guy: What’s your plan going forward? You seem to know a lot of WGs. Why not convince them to join your site? You currently only have 4 in Shanghai. Also, why are you against girls cross-listing themselves as long as they pay you a monthly stipend? Some Rains’ girls were crosslisted on your site, and on Massage Republic,... So why did it bother you that Cherry was crosslisted? No criticism. Just wondering.

@MW: Actually I don't know a lot of WG; I am not remotely the same kind of guy as Steven was. For Steven, this was a full-time gig. And besides himself, he had several girls helping him out. The WG I know, know what I do so it's entirely up to them whether they want me to help them advertise or not.

Regarding Cherry; it wasn't about the cross listing, it is about the lying. Trust comes by foot and goes on horse. I don't want to get hung up too much on it; you're welcome to e-mail if you want to know more.

If I cared about money *That* much, she'd still be listed here and Coco would still be working here. :-/ But it's not worth the risk or the frustration.

Potential plan for the future; I like Massage Republic; I might just steal their concept and try to improve on that. Meaning, freely allow girls to enlist; prioritize verified girls; stimulate reviews.

I'm a geek; I like building sites; we will see.

IT guy,
Given the issues with Manhattan, are they still open? What about Judy’s? Can you confirm, once again, the address for both? Planning a trip to Shanghai soon and would like to visit these bars. I know they tend to move periodically. Thanks.

@Latin: all the Viet girls I know who were telling me about all this, all have left Shanghai (or been kicked out). Samcan posted on ISG that the bars are still open but that there's no girls. No surprise there.